Cell Phones and Valentine’s

In this episode of the Balancing Act podcast, we humorously discuss our personal food favorites, including nostalgic tomato soup. The conversation shifts to the impact of recent cold weather in New York on societal behavior and local traditions like Groundhog Day. We address NJ Governor Murphy's proposed restrictions on cell phones in schools, examining the challenges of technology in education. We also share excitement for Valentine's Day and a class project focused on social-emotional learning. Tune in for a mix of humor, insight, and how we balance it all together on the daily!
In this episode of the Balancing Act podcast, we humorously discuss our personal food favorites, including nostalgic tomato soup. The conversation shifts to the impact of recent cold weather in New York on societal behavior and local traditions like Groundhog Day. We address NJ Governor Murphy's proposed restrictions on cell phones in schools, examining the challenges of technology in education. We also share excitement for Valentine's Day and a class project focused on social-emotional learning. Tune in for a mix of humor, insight, and how we balance it all together on the daily!
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Music.
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And Joe Vitale.
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We are officially recording. Hey, we are.
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A little red light is on. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Balancing Act
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podcast on human content.
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We are happy to join you guys again. I'm here with my wonderful host,
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Ms. Wanko. Hello, Ms. Wanko. How are you?
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Hello. I feel, you know, I'm feeling okay.
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I had one of my most favorite dinners of all time tonight
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oh what do we have what are your most
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favorite dinner tomato soup with noodles
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tomato soup with noodles okay oh man i
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mean nothing says loving like the like a bowl of tomato soup
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with noodles tomato soup campbell's but made with
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milk gotcha okay you you
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from your face you just threw up so no no not
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at all i i'm i'm not a huge tomato soup
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person i like it but it's one of those things i
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have to be like i'm kind of in the mood for it um that's
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kind of my thing i was i was also i was in
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the mood for some uh some good old velveta shells
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and cheese that's what i wanted i wanted velveta mac
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and cheese which they only had like the mini shells at the
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store and i was like i'm not getting that so i got like the generic brand
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it was still good oh it's not the same you gotta eat it with a spoon what
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would a spoon like little shells big spoon oh i
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know but it was like the really really tiny ones it was like i i
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made it once and i was like me i didn't really like it you could
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be a giant i'm a giant like i eat eat
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tiny food if you like giant um it's good stuff so yeah it still feels uh you
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know i i'm hopefully i i did have a nice pink shirt on today which i changed
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into a sweatshirt um so disappointing yeah it was a great color for you I was appreciative of that.
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I was radiant. You were radiant. I felt it.
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I'm radiating spring after the fact that it was so... I have two measurements
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of if it's too cold out. Okay?
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Number one is in New York during the recent cold stretch, they had five days
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where there were no shootings.
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No one got shot in New York for five days, which is amazing.
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It was so cold. It's not fun. And you're laughing Why are you laughing It was
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literally too cold for anyone to commit crime I know I'm saying that Because it was,
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No, I mean, it's true. It's, it was so cold that you just like,
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I can't feel my face when I'm with you.
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It was like, you could not just, you were just like running to the car and just couldn't.
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Oh my gosh. I mean, it was. And the second thing,
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the second thing that is a measurement of it's just too cold is when Bison wears
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closed toad shoes because my girl, who I know she's listening,
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always wears flippity floppities.
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All she's always the toes are always done.
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There's like, you know, some people like, oh, my God, I want to show my feet.
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But she's like, I'm wearing flip flops. I'm wearing sandals.
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I'm wearing everything. I want my toes in the water, ass in the sand,
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you know, the whole thing.
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So that's my measurement. If she's got closed-toed shoes on, it's cold.
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It's too cold. It's true. I always say, like, why do I live in a place where the air hurts my face?
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You know, though, it is a beautiful state. I do remind, you know,
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let's give a little love to the GS here.
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But I do tell the kids, you know, there are very few states in this great country
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of ours that you can ski if you so choose.
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That we have beautiful lakes. We have farms. We have gorgeous beaches and ocean.
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Um, just ocean for miles, um, beautiful sandy beaches.
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So, you know, we've got a corn, a plenty, right.
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You know, so, but yes, it is pizza and bagels are next level.
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You just can't compete. You can't.
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I have a good friend. I have a good friend of mine who lives out in,
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uh, Indianapolis. It's been my best friend since kindergarten.
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Um, and I, I go out there every year and I'm like, Hey, you guys need me to
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bring anything? I said, yes, I'm bringing bagels. So I have to bring like,
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I have to bring a bag, just everything bagels, a bag of everything bagels. That's right.
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It doesn't matter which bagel shop it's from, but it has to be like from a bagel
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shop in New Jersey, not a supermarket. You got to go to a bagel shop and get
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a baker's dozen of bagels. And I wrap them and I put them in things.
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And then you got to like double wrap the bag or your whole car smells like everything bagels.
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So, yeah. Great story. One of the first times he traveled home from college,
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he flew back to Indianapolis to go back to college.
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And in his carry-on, he took a bag of everything bagels.
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And his entire carry-on smelled like everything bagels. Forever.
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It's like, new bag. Get a new bag. Oh, Joey, you dummy. Oh, my goodness.
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Oh, God. Great story. Yeah. I mean, it's been very chilly. But I think that
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we're getting – I'm going to say we're getting out of it. Probably not.
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We'll probably be back into it.
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But it wasn't. Well, it's Groundhog Day. It's Groundhog Day on Sunday.
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February 2nd. Is it February 2nd Groundhog Day? Okay. A little shout out here
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to, you know, one of our viewers, faithful friend of the pod.
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I know where we're going with this. So in New Jersey, so of course,
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everybody knows Paxitoni Phil, right?
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Paxitoni Phil is that famous guy from PA, but we're in the NJ.
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Also highlighted in a phenomenal movie, Groundhog Day, with Bill Murray.
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Excellent movie. So good. Yes.
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And so there is a town in New Jersey, there might be more than one.
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I don't know. I've never heard of them. Only one where they have a groundhog,
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a beloved groundhog, like Miltown, Millstoneville or something.
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And so our good friend of the pod, her sister, it won't have to take a day off
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of work this year because it's on a Sunday.
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But she takes the day off of work to fully and truly appreciate the groundhog. Oh my goodness.
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I just Googled something. This just in.
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So apparently for the fifth year in a row, Milltown, New Jersey is canceling
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their Groundhog Day celebration because they can't get a groundhog.
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I think that there was like a stuffed groundhog in a box or something. No, no.
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She still celebrates it. Like someone has a little event in their house and
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they go and they do it. Maybe it's underground secrets.
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The problem started in 2021 when Milltown Mill died.
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Wranglers found a replacement in Tennessee.
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Wranglers found a replacement in Tennessee and brought it to town to assume
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the important role. But they had to surrender the replacement groundhog to state officials.
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Thanks to a state law that bans importing animals who have the potential to carry rabies.
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I've had a groundhog in my backyard for the last two years. We've given up trying
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to catch it. It just lays on a rock and suns itself taunting us each morning.
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Perhaps I can try one more time and deliver him to Milltown.
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Well, if you are still in need of your Groundhog Day fix in Essex County at
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the Turtleback Zoo, you can watch Edwina, the groundhog, make her weather prediction for this year.
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I was just listening to you give this entire huge story about Milltown and Milltown
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Mel and the groundhog. And for five years, it's been canceled.
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Yes, but it's not canceled in her heart. It's not canceled for her.
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What is happening? She still participates.
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I have a good friend of mine who also lives in Milltown. And it's a great town.
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It really is. It's a wonderful little town in New Jersey.
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It's so cute. Great little community. Do they get invited? Because I've been
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invited. I have not been invited.
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I also don't get invited to Mom's Pool Day. It's a thing.
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Um so keyword moms but yeah so i started messing around a couple years ago when
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they had mom's pool day and i'd be like oh i should go to mom's pool day i should
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show up at mom's pool day so every year our this viewer robin who posts a picture
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is like and she writes the most wonderful,
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things about people we've talked about robin before about how she should
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give lessons on empathy empathy towards others because she
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really is a just a gentle soul and a kind heart and also
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hysterical um so she posts
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this picture every year like hey mom's pool day ims everybody made it so i like
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of course take the picture and then i crop myself in the photo in some way where
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i'm like standing in the corner or i'm over someone's shoulder and then i always
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text the whole group be like hey had such a fun time today i mean they're a very inclusive group.
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But yeah so so it's groundhog day it's coming and of course you know i can't
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i was just telling um one of the younger gentlemen that we work with, um,
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recently about Groundhog Day.
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And I always have this, I have this paper, um, that I do, uh,
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just like a little piece of information for the kids and, you know, the, the, um,
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the history of Groundhog Day and how it was called Candle Moss,
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a Candle Moss view, uh, you know, fair and light and winter takes another flight.
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And really it's just the actual six week midpoint between the first day of winter
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and the first day of spring.
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So it's, you know, it's the exact midpoint.
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And he was like, what? I was like, this is this is silly.
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But also, don't we all know like this little apparently know this little tidbit about Groundhog Day?
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So, yeah. So I feel like we're halfway. We're getting there.
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We're almost halfway through the school year. Unbelievable.
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And, you know, and it's it's all, you know, we've been clicking up the coaster
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and we're just, you know, it's going to be. Yeah.
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We're going to be swinging into warmer weather. Yeah. I don't know if we,
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I think you were about to say smooth sailing, which would have been like,
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no, it's more like a white knuckle ride.
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Sailing takes me away. Oh, that's good stuff. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's good stuff.
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So we, um, I really look forward to March 1st because that's the beginning of
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meteorological spring. Is that because of your B day?
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Uh, no, it really is because of meteorological spring. Like they start measuring
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like, like meteorological winter is over as of the end of February.
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So they start measuring like rainfall and stuff like that from March 1st to May 31st.
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And then June 1st starts meteorological summer. So that's what I like to.
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Nerds, nerds, nerds, nerds.
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Well, I think I think we found a soundbite for this clip.
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So you also are doing a Let's talk about your Valentine's Day project Because
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this episode is going to be coming out right before Valentine's Day So I know
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you're doing a Valentine's Day project Which I think is very adorable But I'm
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going to talk to our listeners And give the brief story about how Mrs.
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Wonko became Leslie Knope Oh my goodness, I mean bring me a waffle At that exact moment Yeah.
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I get these moments of time where I'm just filled with pure hope.
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For, for all good things. And, um, and of course,
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you know, I try to, um, we actually, I, and I think, I think there's,
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you know, people in school that are like this and I, we have a boss that is
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really super, um, like try new things and try new things and try new things.
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And, you know, we've talked about before, I do like to try new things in my
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classroom. I also really do enjoy things that I, I know work, right.
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You know, because you just are like, wow, this is the standard. I know it's going to go.
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Um, so I, I really liked my black history month project last year.
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You probably remember, um, it was born from the idea of the children, like whisper talking.
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I, I, I, if you weren't doing that, I want to do it. Uh, but if you're doing
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it, like I'll tell, like, that's fine. But I thought it was a great idea.
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Thank you. So I was like, I can see you guys whispering.
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So I called it the Tell Me Project.
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And I had them research three people.
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I told them about three people. I wanted them to research three people for Black History Month.
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And then they had to tell three adults and three children for each of the three
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people and then have the person sign that they told them. I don't want you to
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read it. I don't want you to.
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I want you to just conversationally talk about this person that you have information
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about. And it It can be anybody that you choose.
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So I'm going to do the Tell Me Project again, which is a repeat project from
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last year. So I thought, you know what, let me do something different for the month of February.
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So I do, you know, I do, I know that SEL, social emotional learning,
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has become, you know, in our school
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district, it was, there was a big push for it for quite a long time.
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And I think most, you know, good teachers just incorporate it into everything they do.
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I agree that they do anyway, but we had become, it had become like very formalized.
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And now our school district took it from the teachers and now it's just in gym.
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And so the description that I get like for my own kids is like,
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I don't know, sometimes we don't do, sometimes we don't play gym.
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We just fill out a, a, like a booklet, like a workbook.
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And I don't want, I don't want to comment on where it is or what the district policy is.
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However, at the middle school level, the one place where they get to blow off
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some steam, run around, release some endorphins, laugh, play a game,
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is in gym. They gotta be running.
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Let me say it. What the hell are we doing? I'll do it in social studies.
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Give it to me. I'll do it. Let them run around in gym. I would rather them run
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around in gym and play a game and have a good time to have them a little bit of a release.
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I mean, come on, adults think about it you some of you people
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work in offices or those of us that are teachers that
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are listening we get to a professional period and you're like uh
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nope i'm gonna sit and scroll on my phone or i'm
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gonna read a book or i'm gonna go walk on
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a treadmill or go for a walk outside or run
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an errand real quick like we like i just can i just say what one of the eighth
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graders that's me it's just so funny mark like as i know i know you want to
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jump in here and i if you're watching this on youtube you can literally see
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me getting angry it's like i know that this is not this is not my vibe wait
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come here i'll come back come back ready i'm here i'm good okay,
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maybe i need some sel in gym class we have another initiative in our school
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that's called movement monday yes to encourage movement so yes they need to
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go to gym and they need to run around and so the kids some are really you know
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um some are fine with it and then of course like anything else.
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They're like, I don't know. I can't.
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You know, they get like glued to their chair, embarrassed. I get like different
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environments. You're in your classroom, whatever.
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So I was like, it's not a big deal. We're going to do a little bit of yoga.
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Come on. You know, they say sitting is the new smoking.
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Right. Yeah. And one of the eighth graders is like, oh, I'd rather smoke.
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I'm sorry, but whoever that kid is, whoever that kid is, I want to be their
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best friend because that's that is comedy gold right there.
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That is that is literally comedy gold. I probably would have vomited from laughing
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so hard. I was like, no, no, no.
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But it was really, it was so funny the way she said it and just like, nope.
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That is hysterical. We got to get up. We got to move. But yes.
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So I do try to do some SEL as best as I can.
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So for February, I found this really cute little mug and it says like mug of love.
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And then you have these little hearts and you have to write almost like as if
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they were marshmallows.
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And you're just drinking like a delicious cup of cocoa, cocoa of love.
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And then you fill the hearts on top of the little paper mug.
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And, um, and you say, you know, what fills your, um, like just what fills you.
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Um, and horrible, love it. So cute. So I'm like, ah, you know what we're going to do?
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I'm going to buy lunch bags on Amazon and we are going to,
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I'm going to staple like all the mugs to the front of the lunch bags and then
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I'm going to make more of the little hearts and I'm going to let them write
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messages of encouragement to other kids.
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So I have about a hundred kids and everybody's going to be able to like,
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and I'm now I'm like, Oh my gosh, isn't this so cute? And what a great idea. And Mr. Vitale.
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So she immediately became Leslie Knope in that moment where she was talking,
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it's going to be so great. It's going to bring community together.
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Everything's going to be amazing and then i just snapped to her standing
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at the board in front of a group of students and i have my eyes closed
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as i'm telling you this story standing at the board in front of a
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group of students where she reaches into the bag and she pulls out
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one of the hearts she goes oh let's see what somebody says about someone oh
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buttholes why did somebody write the holes on this piece of like it's middle
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school kids i also know that they probably will not do that they might but they
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might i'm willing to pay like oh you're such a skibbity toilet ohio rizzler
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which apparently is a compliment, I guess.
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Of course it is. Yeah, on God, bruh. So, it is, there's another clip for the
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episode. It's all over the place.
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Wait, and you know how I have all these closets and the closets are wood,
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so you can't see into the closets.
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And so I had to make signs because people would come in and be like.
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Some color pencils. So I have a label. Right.
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So it was like, you got any books in here? So I have like one that says all
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the books and then one that says like Mrs.
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Wonko's personal cabinet, which now is going to have to include like,
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don't, that means don't touch it.
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I don't know where, we don't know that personal means like, don't go in there, but whatever.
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So of course my art closet, someone wrote F above the art.
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I also want to be that. kid's best friend when i
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first discovered it i was like and laughed and
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i don't know if like if it was one of my kids or
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i share my classroom or another but i they were like oh my gosh you're laughing
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and i was like i'm laughing i'm not taking it down i mean the closet says fart
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that is so funny it's not funny to face other people's problems it is not but
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if you got something when the door opened that it made a fart noise.
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That would just be the best thing ever.
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Challenge accepted. So anyway, now that we've bantered on and about.
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There's a lot of happenings. There's a lot of happenings. It's a big deal.
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So one of the things that's happened in the last few weeks is our governor,
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Phil Murphy, during the most recent state of the state address,
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talked about a lot of things.
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But one of the things he mentioned was having a more supportive environment.
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I want to make sure I get the wording correctly for schools to create policy
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that's going to limit cell phone use during the school day.
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And I think that's an important conversation for us to start having.
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We could probably talk for the next couple of episodes about this.
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What does limit use during the school day? Well, that's what I want to,
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I want to kind of. It's very wide open for interpretation. It's very wide open for interpretation.
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I'm going to try and find some more specifics on the exact wording of what he said in the speech.
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I mean, a lot of school districts already have cell phone policies,
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but like, are they enforced?
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I mean, honestly, I mean, my husband's school district, it's very strictly enforced.
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It is, you know, something that is on the very top of their priority list.
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My my kids, it would be like a yes, but then also a no. I think it depends on age level also.
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But my my girls just like they leave them in their lockers.
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They never think of taking them with them. So, you know,
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I would imagine that it would be impossible to have parents agree not to send
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their children to school without the phone.
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Yeah, that would be impossible. Just impossible. ball.
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I was trying to say today, it would make me so happy if we had no water bottles.
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And all your water bottles stayed in your locker with your phones.
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And that seemed like the most outrageous idea that they had ever heard.
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But I don't know. I mean, as a parent, I want my kids to have my phone, I'll tell you.
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Not in the classroom, but I like that they have it in their backpacks, I will say. Yeah.
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So New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy calling for a statewide ban on cell phone
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use in public schools for students in grades K through 12.
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If a kindergartner has a phone, it's a bigger problem. They're fueling a rise
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in cyberbullying, and they're making it incredibly difficult for our kids not
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only to learn, but to retain substance of what they learn.
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Honestly, is it any surprise that the rise in smartphone usage has coincided
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with a growing youth mental health crisis?
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Murphy said he doesn't give any facts or figures.
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We were supposed to read that book, remember?
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Yeah, we were. We've got to do that. That's on the list. We're putting it on
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the list. That is on the list. That is on the list.
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He says he will no longer sit back and watch kids suffer. But here's the thing.
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Don't get me wrong. I think this is honestly a great idea. There's been some.
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Locally in our local school district, there was a board member that asked,
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hey, parents, what would you think about the district banning the use of cell
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phones during the school day?
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And a lot of parents and teachers commented on that thread. And most of it was,
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yes, absolutely, from parents and from teachers.
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There were some parents that are also teachers, which is exactly where we are.
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So it becomes a very difficult thing to...
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It becomes a very, a very difficult thing for us to separate being a teacher and being a parent.
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It's, it's, it's a challenge for me literally every day when something happens
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in my kid's classroom and they come home and they talk about it.
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I try to react as a parent, not as a teacher in front of them.
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And then sometimes when I go behind closed doors, like what,
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what exactly was that teacher thinking? Like try to put myself in their shoes. Okay.
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Um, so I don't think there's a specific statewide policy.
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Okay. OK, but Indiana, Ohio, South Carolina, Louisiana is becoming a national issue. The U.S.
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Department of Education called on every state school and district on Tuesday
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to adopt policies on cell phone use in schools.
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I don't think that schools don't have. What are they doing with the phones?
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Like all day long? They're on them? What's happening? So, yeah,
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there are some districts that started to institute the yonder pouches.
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Have you heard about the yonder pouches? Do you know what those are?
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And so you put your phone in it, it locks. And then at the end of the day, it unlocks.
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Yeah. So there are some musical artists.
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I don't remember exactly where it started. There are some musical artists as
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well as comedians who basically were like, look, put the phones down.
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Enjoy the experience. Be here.
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Enjoy the moment. You know, it is someone's intellectual property as well,
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right? Some people, like some artists don't care.
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They want people to post on social media and get the notoriety out there.
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But there is a sense of like being in the moment.
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At the time doing that particular thing with all those people,
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like there is a, there's a sense of, of community and togetherness,
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like at a concert or at a comedy show where, you know, you're,
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you're literally viewing someone else's art, right?
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So they want people to be present and be in the moment and not be like on their
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phones, looking at stuff for, or, or recording and then looking at the stage
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through the recording. Like it's, it's, it's a challenge.
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Yeah. Um, but now that's been adapted in schools, it's cost prohibitive. It's not cheap.
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No, it's expensive. It is. I'm, I'm wondering, you know, if it,
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how much of a majority, you know, I would imagine this is like a,
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at the very earliest, like a fourth grade problem through, you know,
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high school, I would think it would probably reach like its peak in high school.
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Um, and though it, so between grades nine through 12, um, I'm curious also,
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as far as colleges is concerned, you know, how much of that is happening in colleges.
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The thing that I don't necessarily, you know, always understand with phones
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or something that does bother me, and it's a very like Fahrenheit 451 situation, are the AirPods.
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And I know that, you know, in the last couple of years, they've become,
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you know, so wildly popular and they were expensive. And now people,
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you know, it's Christmas and birthdays and everybody has them, right?
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And they're, you know, tucked into their tiny ears. And they don't even know
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sometimes that, you know,
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that there's a world going on around them because they're so stuck in this,
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whatever it is that they're doing.
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Is it, is it different? I mean, you or I in high school never would have sat
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at our desk with our Walkman.
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We had, you know, we had the capability of doing that. Would anyone have ever done that?
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I don't think so. Maybe the most musically inclined introverted kid.
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I don't mean it in any negative way. But I can't recall anyone ever having something
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like that in a classroom.
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So they're just, it was a 0%, right? It wasn't happening. So now we have kids that have devices.
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And on top of the devices, there's another level of now you have another device. So you have two.
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And then sometimes there's something happening in the front of the room,
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on a screen, and then you're on your own computer, and then you're also on your
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own phone with it in your ears.
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So there was a really great, I know you show CNN 10 sometimes too, to your classes.
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So there was a really great clip or segment rather last week about just exactly
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how distracted we have all become and how multitasking is essentially.
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Just wrecking our brains and what it's doing to us and how draining it is.
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Yeah. And I'm, I'm, you know, I've really been trying to be more conscious of that.
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I think as it struck me more as a teacher than anything else,
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because we are the very definition of multitaskers.
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I mean, are you ever just do it?
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No, ever doing one thing. You know what?
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It's interesting that you brought this up two things i just want to
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pop back to the yonder conversation okay what the
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yonder pouch is it's a pouch that a student is assigned yeah
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they put their phone in the pouch it gets locked via a
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magnetic thing kind of like those uh you know the the the sensors on the clothing
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right it's got like a little pin that locks did a full i think we did a whole
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episode on yonder pouches last year wasn't it linden yeah yeah there was all
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such apparent backlash and issues that were surrounding it.
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And then kids go to like stations that are by the door at the end of the day,
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they tap it and then they're out and they're gone. Okay.
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So of course, students that have medical needs, if they have to get blood glucose
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and stuff like that, but you know, even when like, there are certain things
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that are not enforceable.
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Like if you confiscate a kid's phone, they get the phone back at the end of the day.
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Like why is a parent after two times, three times, not required to come get their device.
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I don't know why. I don't know what the district stance is. I don't know what other districts do.
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I'm just saying in general, that doesn't seem unreasonable if you're trying to change behavior.
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That's number one. Number two, you talked about the multitasking aspect.
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I had this thing that I was doing about the executive branch,
00:28:36.769 --> 00:28:41.049
a little video about the president's plane because the kids were interested on presidential perks.
00:28:41.229 --> 00:28:44.429
We were talking about the White House and the Secret Service and his air
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force one air force one and then the limousine i was like oh there's actually
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a good documentary about now i said documentary and everybody's like i was like
00:28:51.909 --> 00:28:56.209
no no wait i was like and i was like i was like this is actually interesting
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i've actually watched it with my wife in the room um and i don't know if i actually
00:29:01.409 --> 00:29:03.649
watched that one and she was like achoo she,
00:29:04.169 --> 00:29:07.349
she's my barometer like if she stays awake it's normally interesting
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because she doesn't really like some of the same history stuff that i do yeah but
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like it's interesting so i gave them like this little thing to follow
00:29:13.109 --> 00:29:16.069
along like multiple choice questions just a couple and what
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is it what's it called i want to watch it uh it was the
00:29:18.849 --> 00:29:21.869
flying fortress air force one flying fortress it basically was the update
00:29:21.869 --> 00:29:28.009
of the um supposed to be updated by now but due to due the pandemic and boeing
00:29:28.009 --> 00:29:34.029
shutdown uh pentagon security issues all sorts of stuff uh the first flight
00:29:34.029 --> 00:29:40.129
of the new air force one is delayed to 2026 um but anyway they they were redesigning the color scheme.
00:29:40.669 --> 00:29:44.849
Um because it's a tool for legislation right so anyway i give them this little
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video it's got 10 questions on it and a question at the end and one girl at
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one point was like oh i like i'm missing parts of the video because i'm like
00:29:51.289 --> 00:29:53.149
trying to answer the questions above i was like,
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I stopped the video. I said, is this too difficult for some of you?
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And I said, and they kind of looked at me and said, I don't mean that in a rude way.
00:30:00.539 --> 00:30:03.159
Like, is this too difficult for you? Like, I meant that as like,
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if you're struggling with that, then let's like, forget about the multiple choice
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questions. Like, I know you're all paying attention.
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I'd rather us discuss the last question, right? Why is it? Why do you think it's important?
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And how does it allow the president to administer policy?
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Right? Because we talked about foreign policy and domestic policy. Like,
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how does it allow him to do his job i said so write some bullet points down
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as your as your if something pops in your head they were much more inclined
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to do that which is more less labor intensive than like multiple choice questions
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along yes the line because i think they struggle with that because.
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Of their ability with the phones in the hands
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like at the end of the school day it's phones in
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the hand airpods are in and we're walking out to the bus and we're
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walking home and we're flipping on tiktok and insta face
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and chat book and all those other things that they're on i sound like an old person
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um or discord i don't know what
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that is i've heard it mentioned yes you don't
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really really really i'm like you don't really grant my gears there's so there
00:31:04.339 --> 00:31:07.979
is and so the idea of you know how do you make it how do you how do you become
00:31:07.979 --> 00:31:14.399
more simplistic uh simplify do you see your day-to-day um do you have it like
00:31:14.399 --> 00:31:17.479
is that something that comes up i haven't seen one phone.
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I do. I do. Listen, the way it was stated to us is that the phones are supposed
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to be in their lockers. They're not even supposed to be carried on them.
00:31:28.739 --> 00:31:31.499
There are students that I know carry them around. They have them in their sweatshirt
00:31:31.499 --> 00:31:35.079
pocket. I can see it. They have them in the pocking of their leggings.
00:31:37.879 --> 00:31:42.119
What, like during hallway passing is when I see that. if you are my student,
00:31:42.379 --> 00:31:49.219
if you are on my roster of 100 students and I see you because I've been told
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to make sure that students have it in their locker.
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So if I see you when I'm teaching you or when I'm not teaching you with the
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phone in the pocket or in the waistband of your pants or in the pocket of your
00:32:01.499 --> 00:32:06.059
sweatshirt, I'm telling you to go put it away because I am a soldier, not a general.
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.759
I've been told what I'm supposed to be doing and that's what I'm doing.
00:32:08.779 --> 00:32:10.459
I'm addressing the students that I teach.
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.759
Now, if I don't teach you, I'm not going to get to that argument.
00:32:13.399 --> 00:32:18.739
It's a larger argument for me. It's a sword I want to die on that we all should
00:32:18.739 --> 00:32:21.999
be doing that because I look like.
00:32:22.917 --> 00:32:27.717
I look like the a-hole when I'm the one that's forcing kids to do it and no one else is.
00:32:27.917 --> 00:32:30.777
I'm not saying no one else is, but when people aren't like- Well,
00:32:30.777 --> 00:32:32.557
I think you have to- Well, I don't know.
00:32:33.057 --> 00:32:38.857
Maybe this will just speak a little bit to a guest that we had talked to,
00:32:38.857 --> 00:32:42.937
but it also has to do with how your brain is wired, perhaps.
00:32:43.137 --> 00:32:48.397
Oh, yeah. Of what you do see or don't see. I don't know if there's that we can
00:32:48.397 --> 00:32:53.217
say we can lump everybody together and say that they're just not paying attention
00:32:53.217 --> 00:32:55.217
to it. No. Yeah. I understand.
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Tons of adults who are just not even seeing it.
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Well, and the other thing is in my defense, also where I am in my building,
00:33:04.097 --> 00:33:08.397
I am not by lockers or I'm in a different part of the hallway where I don't
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get a lot of the hallway, the hallway mess, if you will.
00:33:11.797 --> 00:33:15.357
Like kids stopping at the lockers. Same. I love it. I do enjoy not having to
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deal with that. So I only see a certain amount of kids that are passing in my general area.
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But when they come to my classroom, that's my expectation. It doesn't matter
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when I see it or how I see it.
00:33:26.797 --> 00:33:30.317
It's being put back in your locker. Yeah. And if you're in a cafeteria and I
00:33:30.317 --> 00:33:31.977
see you, it's being put back in your locker.
00:33:32.157 --> 00:33:35.757
If they take it out and they're playing with it or they're doing something with
00:33:35.757 --> 00:33:38.197
it, then it gets confiscated. Right.
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And it gets put away. It gets sent to the office.
00:33:42.337 --> 00:33:48.277
Yeah. So I guess I'm looking at it more from the, you know, if it's not out
00:33:48.277 --> 00:33:50.177
and you're not on it and you're not using it.
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Although I have to say, like, I'm not supposed to be on my phone either.
00:33:53.697 --> 00:33:57.677
And today I, like, full disclosure, had a sick child at home and had to say
00:33:57.677 --> 00:34:00.557
to the kids, like, I have to check my messages.
00:34:00.997 --> 00:34:04.997
You know, and I had to fall. Right. Yeah. We recently got that about being on
00:34:04.997 --> 00:34:06.217
duty and not being on our phones.
00:34:06.217 --> 00:34:10.117
I said the other day, I said, guys, I, I put a call into my,
00:34:10.217 --> 00:34:14.477
um, my, my, my daughter has to have a minor surgical procedure and you know
00:34:14.477 --> 00:34:16.737
how it is when you call a doctor and you need them to call you back.
00:34:16.857 --> 00:34:20.677
When they call you back, that's your window. Like, and, and they're busy.
00:34:20.977 --> 00:34:24.657
Like, like I got to pick up, I said, if they call, I'm going to pick up the phone.
00:34:25.157 --> 00:34:27.877
Uh, just say, Hey, you know, hold on a minute. I'll pop out in the hallway.
00:34:28.097 --> 00:34:31.757
I'll have it. So another teacher come in. I said, so I got my phone on today. It's on my desk.
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So if it goes off, uh, you know, I got to take the call. It's one of those parenting things.
00:34:36.357 --> 00:34:40.017
And nobody, I got, um, got it. Yeah. Like the kids aren't going to say to you
00:34:40.017 --> 00:34:41.937
like, Ooh, what are you doing that?
00:34:41.977 --> 00:34:44.597
And I can't, I'm like, well, do you have kids? No. Okay. Well, be quiet.
00:34:45.197 --> 00:34:51.737
Um, no, I got an email from the school nurse. I thought this was just like, so beyond thoughtful.
00:34:52.037 --> 00:34:58.037
Um, so my, my, um, daughter had to come home sick and I got an email from the school nurse.
00:34:58.117 --> 00:35:01.617
Um, and it said, you know, I'm, I'm sure that it's, you know,
00:35:01.717 --> 00:35:03.637
impossible for you to use the phone.
00:35:03.857 --> 00:35:06.257
Um, I want you to know this is what's happening.
00:35:06.477 --> 00:35:09.417
This is what she, yeah. And I was like, gosh, that's so nice.
00:35:09.477 --> 00:35:13.797
And it really was so terrific because then I was able to like email, respond back to her.
00:35:13.957 --> 00:35:15.657
And then she emailed, respond back
00:35:15.657 --> 00:35:18.877
to me. And it was like, see you in 10 minutes. It was like, I gotta go.
00:35:19.057 --> 00:35:22.077
Um, but I just thought, wow, that was, that was really so thoughtful of her
00:35:22.077 --> 00:35:25.177
because it is, you know, we're in a sticky spot, but I get what you're saying.
00:35:25.217 --> 00:35:30.337
So you're making the distinction between not on it, but on you can see it.
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And I guess because of what we've been told by,
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A hundred percent. That's what the rule is. A hundred percent. So, yeah. Okay.
00:35:39.406 --> 00:35:44.166
So, um, the, I've actually used, I've actually used a line from you where you've
00:35:44.166 --> 00:35:47.666
said like, um, I like a good work environment, right?
00:35:47.746 --> 00:35:51.306
I don't exactly what, remember exactly what you said. Like, I like good work environment.
00:35:51.466 --> 00:35:54.726
This work environment is provided for me. And like, because I want to have that
00:35:54.726 --> 00:35:59.466
good work environment. I, I like, I often talk, we talk about law with our students
00:35:59.466 --> 00:36:03.886
all the time, even though it's a history class, like you can't be like, stop signs.
00:36:04.026 --> 00:36:07.586
I don't like stop signs. Stop signs are stupid. I want a red sign.
00:36:08.006 --> 00:36:12.886
Tell me what to do and where to go. Because if you do that, that causes disorder
00:36:12.886 --> 00:36:14.886
in society. I realize it's a phone.
00:36:15.046 --> 00:36:19.606
Like I realized that I'm just saying like there are sometimes we have to do
00:36:19.606 --> 00:36:25.006
things that we might not necessarily support or see the purpose of for quote unquote greater good.
00:36:25.726 --> 00:36:31.126
Right. Well, I mean, it's part of what's, you know, the basics of being part of a civilized society.
00:36:31.566 --> 00:36:36.746
So if the rule is this is what you're doing, then this is what you're doing.
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The difficulty, I suppose, with, you know, like being in a vehicle and running a red, you know,
00:36:43.346 --> 00:36:48.666
running a sub sign, it's a lot more difficult to police, you know,
00:36:48.726 --> 00:36:53.406
the small device that they're hiding on their person on purpose because a lot
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of them are really good at hiding it.
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You know, so that, that definitely gets in, um, you know, into a gray area.
00:37:00.626 --> 00:37:07.786
I, um, think that it really should be, um, you know, in enforced as, as much as possible.
00:37:08.466 --> 00:37:12.726
And, um, and I, I get it. Like, I do think that this, this situation becomes
00:37:12.726 --> 00:37:16.626
sticky because there's going to be so many parents who are not going to want
00:37:16.626 --> 00:37:21.866
them to, um, you know, a lot of parents will defend having them have the phones.
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I just don't know. I, I get it. I just don't understand the logic behind that.
00:37:28.826 --> 00:37:32.646
And now they can't really, I do, but they can't fight it now.
00:37:32.886 --> 00:37:35.526
Um, one of the parents, um, on that post that you had mentioned earlier,
00:37:35.526 --> 00:37:38.666
um, who works in the district and is a parent, um, here as well,
00:37:38.826 --> 00:37:43.146
brought up a really, really, really great point. Uh, because one parent had
00:37:43.146 --> 00:37:46.366
said, you know, um, I want my child to have their cell phone. It's a safety issue.
00:37:46.606 --> 00:37:50.466
And the, and the mom said, um, who happens to work in the district,
00:37:50.586 --> 00:37:54.786
her response back was, well, in our school district, they just installed new
00:37:54.786 --> 00:38:01.466
phones in every single classroom and every single classroom phone can now dial out 911.
00:38:02.446 --> 00:38:05.886
I thought, geez, there's no better, right? Like, shut it down.
00:38:06.166 --> 00:38:10.146
And that's a state mandate. I think the reason we got those new phones was because,
00:38:10.286 --> 00:38:13.706
I don't want to use the word mandate, but there's some kind of legislation or
00:38:13.706 --> 00:38:15.306
law that was put out there that we have to do it.
00:38:15.946 --> 00:38:18.486
But are we trying to put the...
00:38:19.326 --> 00:38:21.506
Like trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
00:38:22.521 --> 00:38:28.261
Like, is that what we're doing right now? No. And I think it's a very age level specific problem.
00:38:28.461 --> 00:38:35.621
I mean, maybe I'm, you know, misinformed, but I would say average child gets
00:38:35.621 --> 00:38:39.761
a phone, you know, at 10, 11 years old.
00:38:40.001 --> 00:38:44.921
However, it did say like kindergarten through 12th grade. I know you said like, what kindergartner?
00:38:45.421 --> 00:38:51.901
This is what I will say. Um, I know that in, you know, certain more affluent areas, um,
00:38:52.341 --> 00:38:56.621
and I do know this from, um, my sister's kids, um, they had,
00:38:56.721 --> 00:39:01.101
um, a very like ride your bike to school, um, sort of town.
00:39:01.101 --> 00:39:05.381
And so, um, the kids would ride their bikes in like first grade,
00:39:05.381 --> 00:39:06.581
you'd ride your bike to school.
00:39:06.741 --> 00:39:10.661
Um, they could leave for lunch, all that kind of stuff. Right. So they had watches.
00:39:10.841 --> 00:39:14.501
Um, I don't even know if, if something has replaced this, um,
00:39:14.661 --> 00:39:17.141
but they had these like specific watches. that were designed, right?
00:39:17.281 --> 00:39:20.621
And they could call, um, you know, you could get like three different numbers.
00:39:20.821 --> 00:39:23.481
You could call three. Now it was a very small, like, um, you know,
00:39:23.721 --> 00:39:26.741
community of people that could, could get you on your watch.
00:39:26.781 --> 00:39:33.821
But I'm just wondering like with smartwatches and, um, not just the AirPods,
00:39:34.101 --> 00:39:37.221
but the smartwatches and then those types of phone devices. And then even,
00:39:37.441 --> 00:39:41.441
you know, there's been some things I've been seeing about the, um, the glasses, right.
00:39:41.561 --> 00:39:44.941
So, you know, you can't legislate because they can be prescription and you can't
00:39:44.941 --> 00:39:46.781
tell somebody they can't wear prescription lenses.
00:39:48.261 --> 00:39:54.981
So it is sort of like, it's widening the like, but that's what happens, right?
00:39:55.061 --> 00:39:58.861
Is that like, give an inch, take a mile, give an inch, take a mile.
00:39:59.101 --> 00:40:05.841
So the practical reasons for things like not having the kids carry their phones around, number one,
00:40:06.041 --> 00:40:09.101
they, they're, if they're all one-to-one and they're on district devices,
00:40:09.101 --> 00:40:14.781
you know, most districts have GoGuardian or some kind of quote-unquote monitoring
00:40:14.781 --> 00:40:16.401
software that's on the computer,
00:40:17.181 --> 00:40:21.581
that both works inside during the school day and outside of the school day.
00:40:22.301 --> 00:40:26.041
Let me just make sure I preface that by saying things like, you know,
00:40:26.141 --> 00:40:30.501
GoGuardian do not allow you to look at a student's computer outside of the time
00:40:30.501 --> 00:40:31.461
that you have them in school.
00:40:31.621 --> 00:40:34.801
However, if a student decides on their.
00:40:37.231 --> 00:40:42.871
Suicide, shooting, you know, violence, pornography, stuff like that on their school device,
00:40:44.271 --> 00:40:48.131
the administrators in those buildings do get an alert that says they viewed
00:40:48.131 --> 00:40:51.851
this content, they've searched for this thing, or GoGuardian monitors that on
00:40:51.851 --> 00:40:55.491
their end, where they could, you know, send authorities to a house like that.
00:40:55.691 --> 00:40:58.091
That's a whole separate thing when we say like, it's monitored.
00:40:58.251 --> 00:41:02.131
Like, it's like, I tell them all the time, like, I can't look at your camera.
00:41:02.571 --> 00:41:06.991
Even if you're on a personal device on your Google account that's run by the
00:41:06.991 --> 00:41:12.731
school, we can't see what you're doing because that's GoGuardian going,
00:41:12.871 --> 00:41:14.811
uh-uh, that's not a school device, that's a personal device.
00:41:14.931 --> 00:41:19.051
Anyway, but if they're using their phone to turn on a hotspot so this way they
00:41:19.051 --> 00:41:24.571
could use their Chromebook and go on a hotspot so they're not on the district
00:41:24.571 --> 00:41:27.351
Wi-Fi so they can't be monitored, that's one thing.
00:41:27.351 --> 00:41:31.491
If they're taking something like a test review and they're reading it into a
00:41:31.491 --> 00:41:34.051
voice note and then listening to it in their AirPods and like,
00:41:34.151 --> 00:41:36.751
Oh, I'm just listening to music, but they're on their personal device,
00:41:36.971 --> 00:41:38.331
listening to the answers of a test.
00:41:38.911 --> 00:41:42.071
Cause these are all things that have been seen. Like, I'm not saying this is
00:41:42.071 --> 00:41:46.451
in all cases, but like, what's the biggest thing that kids want to know when
00:41:46.451 --> 00:41:49.411
they're on their Chromebooks and they're going to be working on something independently?
00:41:49.571 --> 00:41:53.411
What is the first question that they ask? Can I listen to music? Can I listen to music?
00:41:53.671 --> 00:41:56.551
And I always tell them, I have two rules for you. Okay.
00:41:57.031 --> 00:41:59.771
Please get a feel for the assignment before you do anything.
00:41:59.931 --> 00:42:02.531
Take five minutes just to read the directions, go through everything.
00:42:02.771 --> 00:42:05.911
Number two, if I'm asking you to do something and there's a video,
00:42:05.911 --> 00:42:08.751
I can't stop you doing this, right?
00:42:09.151 --> 00:42:12.051
You have to police yourselves. You have to pause your music.
00:42:12.411 --> 00:42:16.211
You have to watch the video, not read the captions, watch and listen to the video.
00:42:17.229 --> 00:42:20.189
Because the things that I've picked for them are curated. Like,
00:42:20.709 --> 00:42:24.449
oh, I have this specific part that I think you're going to learn something from.
00:42:25.969 --> 00:42:29.769
And then I said, then go back to your music. I said, that shows digital responsibility,
00:42:30.029 --> 00:42:32.089
right? I should be expecting you to do that.
00:42:32.389 --> 00:42:36.269
You also should be, you know, watching what music you're listening to.
00:42:36.569 --> 00:42:40.129
Because if you're listening things with objectionable terms or objectionable
00:42:40.129 --> 00:42:44.889
images, don't be surprised if you don't get a call from the office to be seen.
00:42:44.889 --> 00:42:49.669
Because you're viewing objectionable material. So please watch what you're listening to.
00:42:50.089 --> 00:42:53.469
A lot of kids, like I have one girl, like all she does is listen to Hamilton.
00:42:53.669 --> 00:42:56.769
All she does is listen to Hamilton or like show tunes or something else.
00:42:56.909 --> 00:42:58.309
I want to be her best friend.
00:42:58.589 --> 00:43:02.749
Yeah, I mean, which there's absolutely nothing wrong with. But like when it
00:43:02.749 --> 00:43:06.789
comes to listening to it on their personal device, they're already on their devices enough.
00:43:07.269 --> 00:43:11.989
Yes. How much more do they need to be on it? Okay. That is the question.
00:43:12.289 --> 00:43:15.009
That is the question. I wanted to find the graphic.
00:43:15.409 --> 00:43:22.529
Maybe this will be for another episode, but there was a graphic in a TED Talk
00:43:22.529 --> 00:43:27.769
that I looked at, and the gentleman basically put like every month is represented by a dot.
00:43:28.429 --> 00:43:34.309
And it's like nine years of your life is what you have left after sleeping and
00:43:34.309 --> 00:43:37.649
driving and going to school and working. You have nine years left.
00:43:39.189 --> 00:43:44.049
And of those nine years, like eight of them, it's projected if you live to a
00:43:44.049 --> 00:43:48.269
life expectancy of 90 years old, which is possible due to today's medical advances,
00:43:48.549 --> 00:43:53.089
that you'll spend eight of those nine years looking at a screen.
00:43:54.369 --> 00:43:59.809
Not for school, not for work, outside of those two activities.
00:43:59.809 --> 00:44:05.489
We're not even measuring screen time on a computer for school or for work.
00:44:06.409 --> 00:44:10.209
What could you accomplish and master if you had eight years?
00:44:11.149 --> 00:44:16.109
You have eight years to study, read, introspectively do something.
00:44:16.169 --> 00:44:19.129
You could be an expert and I'd be a hell of a lot of better golfer.
00:44:20.009 --> 00:44:24.409
I mean, and of course we say this as we are encouraging you to listen to our
00:44:24.409 --> 00:44:26.489
podcast, not discouraging you.
00:44:28.009 --> 00:44:32.069
No, I mean, I'm not saying we should all like throw our phones in the ocean
00:44:32.069 --> 00:44:33.609
and go live in an apple tree in Oregon.
00:44:34.349 --> 00:44:39.809
You know, that's not what I'm saying. so it's a healthy balance we're all about
00:44:39.809 --> 00:44:44.949
here i you know i reached out to the board member who actually made that comment
00:44:44.949 --> 00:44:47.869
it was like i would love to be involved in that conversation because,
00:44:48.869 --> 00:44:54.329
um and you too i think would be important but like having dove into ed tech
00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:58.109
and been part of the one-to-one everyone's got to be one-to-one but then seeing
00:44:58.109 --> 00:45:02.869
some of the effects of that i think i've kind of like backed off the gas a little
00:45:02.869 --> 00:45:04.989
bit and i can look at it through a vein of like, yeah,
00:45:05.129 --> 00:45:08.029
there are certain things technology-wise that are good, but we are doing our
00:45:08.029 --> 00:45:12.409
kids a disservice if we're not limiting their amount of access to certain things
00:45:12.409 --> 00:45:14.429
that they shouldn't have access to.
00:45:15.429 --> 00:45:19.309
A hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred percent. Well, so the conversation continues,
00:45:19.309 --> 00:45:22.249
uh, you know, it just keeps going on and on. Yes, it does.
00:45:22.429 --> 00:45:26.529
I'd be, I'm so excited to hear about how the mug of love, um,
00:45:27.009 --> 00:45:28.429
goes. I really want to hear that.
00:45:28.769 --> 00:45:34.449
I hope we can just pour from it and enjoy. Pour from the mug of love. Can I borrow a feeling?
00:45:34.789 --> 00:45:37.189
What is that? Is that the Simpsons? I don't know why that just popped into my
00:45:37.189 --> 00:45:39.349
head. I don't know. I don't know. I'll have to Google that.
00:45:39.669 --> 00:45:42.609
Uh, it is. I can't cause I'm off my device for the rest. Yeah.
00:45:42.669 --> 00:45:45.329
You're off your device for the rest of the day. Um, So as always,
00:45:45.689 --> 00:45:47.229
buddy, I appreciate you.
00:45:47.529 --> 00:45:53.269
As always, I appreciate you. And of course, we appreciate all of you listeners
00:45:53.269 --> 00:45:56.629
and we appreciate our new platform, Human Content,
00:45:56.969 --> 00:46:01.669
for all of their help and advice in these first couple of weeks as we have been
00:46:01.669 --> 00:46:08.549
exploring our new, you know, just so many new spaces, so many spots to receive
00:46:08.549 --> 00:46:10.409
us, right? Yeah, we are sponges.
00:46:10.629 --> 00:46:14.789
That's what we are. We're trying to soak it all in. So, and it's a good learning curve for us.
00:46:15.849 --> 00:46:19.929
And also a good lesson. We go back to value, my word of the year.
00:46:20.929 --> 00:46:24.569
This is adding value to our show because it's going to increase our listenership
00:46:24.569 --> 00:46:27.769
and allow us to help more people, which is ultimately what our goal is.
00:46:28.049 --> 00:46:31.749
So that to do Joe Rogan numbers. Okay.
00:46:33.149 --> 00:46:36.309
All right, guys, we'll see you all next time on the Bouncing X Podcast.
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